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Tales From The Other Side - September 2006

Ecstasy Kills (So Legalize it)

September 15th 2006 22:15

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So, we are all painfully aware that Ecstasy kills. From, no doubt, painful personal experience, to the repetitive messages hammered into news and movies, the message that E is a deadly killer has been injected directly into our systems.

So why suggest it be legalized? Quite simply, the suggestion I wish to make, is that the illegal status of Ecstasy is one of the primary factors that cause it to be deadly.

Let’s look at it this way – why do people die from using E? Overdose, Impurity and Abuse (which is an indirect consequence).

Firstly, Overdose. Now, nobody in their right mind would ever suggest this could be avoided completely. Hell, we can’t even prevent alcohol overdose, so how could we do it with anything else? We will always have nutjobs willing to eat till they’re beat. However, imagine how much easier it would be to accidentally get rip roaring drunk if every drink you got was in an unlabelled glass bottle – no clue of the alcohol content. This is what Ecstasy users are faced with – no way of understanding what strength of what they take. If this was legalized, users would know, and choose, the strength of their product.

Impurity is also a big killer – basically when there’s something there that doesn’t belong. Kind of like finding 20% of your Vodka cruiser is actually detergent. Of course in a regulated industry, this wouldn’t occur.

Finally, Ecstasy proves itself to many to be, in some opinions, a drug worth taking, leading the suggestion that many other drugs rendered illegal may well be worth taking. Hence, it promotes abuse, by being made into a gateway drug. Scoff if you want at the suggestion, but tell me; Does alcohol lead to cocaine? So why should E?

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Comment by Joy

September 15th 2006 22:46

I thought E was only made illegal after it was prescribed as a way to treat psychological symptoms. I could be wrong, though.

Comment by Brenton

September 16th 2006 04:46

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I'm not certain, need to check that up.

However, as far as I know, Spain is currenly testing for uses of MDMA in treating post traumatic stress syndrome.

Comment by Anonymous

September 18th 2006 04:21

Take some to Bali. I'm sure they'll listen you your BS.

Comment by Brenton

September 18th 2006 05:12

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Well, anonomous, I'm afraid several points should be raised here.

1. If I attempted to move Ecstacy to Bali it'd probably be Australian Customs who would deal with me, NOT Bali.
2. Who are you? out of curiousity.
3. Just because there is an arguement to make something legal, does not constitute a defence against being prosicuted for performing the illegal act, unless constitutuionally viable.
4. Why do you consider this article BS? IF there is an actual reason rather than bland rhetoric, I'd be quite pleased to listen to it.

Brenton.

Comment by Jacinda

September 21st 2006 10:14

Interesting idea. Only one flaw I can see.

This is what Ecstasy users are faced with – no way of understanding what strength of what they take.

from what I've been told - and you can see in that picture at the top ... those pictures are a code to let you know what's in the estasy. So if you ever get given it you can apparently (and I haven't looked into this) go onto the net and find out what was put into it and how it was made. Or something like that.

*checks it out*

*confirmed* http://www.pillreports.com

Comment by Brenton

September 21st 2006 11:45

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True, users can be told what it is by groups such as this - but you can't be 100% certain. I have a few friends in the rave scene who openly admit, as good as these sites are, there is always an element of ambiguity.

Comment by Jacinda

September 27th 2006 13:42

true, but it gives you a fair idea ... I mean thats only if you take it home and then search it up anyway, not for - oh gee, someone's offering me some E, *gulp* ... but yah ... *shrugs* tis still a half useful resource.

as for me, I plan to never have E so *shrugs* guess I'm set

Comment by Darcy

October 22nd 2006 12:18

Unfortunately www.pillreports.com is not always a reliable resource as it is members of the community that post opinions of the drug... hence dealers or manufacturers can also anonymously post their own reports which obviously aren't necessarily true.
Pill testing kits are available througha few internet sources such as http://www.enlighten.org.au/aboutus.php which i believe are legal to possess... not too expensive either. These are also not 100% accurate and cannot tell exactly how much is in a pill.
Because of this I would also strongly support a change of law... only to allow significantly RESTRICTED legalisation though. Possesion should not be a crime and manufacture and sale should be HIGHLY regulated. If not even for public use, the benefits which exist from this incredible drug for victims of traumatic events and stress appear to be amazing. From what I read it seems to help address the memories of the trauma itself rather than numb them like the anti-depressants that our society has decided to accept into popularity.

Comment by Brenton

October 23rd 2006 00:18

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Darcy,

Probably you nailed it better than I did.

ONe of the best thnigs of leagalization is the fact that you can Regulate the industry - at present, the Ecstsacy industry is completely unregulated. This would make everything much safer.

Comment by Gareth

October 24th 2006 01:58

I agree with you totally and would even go as far as to say that all drugs should be legalised. I know that this is not a popular opinion but I stand by it all the same. I believe it would be considerably safer for the users, better for the economy and would reduce the drug problem in society in general. I live on a council estate with an excess of readily available drugs and in my experience (I personally know many drug addicts and have seen several friends fall down this path) drug addiction is a sickness that should be treated rather than punished. I would rather see smackheads (heroin addicts) in hospital rather than on the streets. I dont believe prison helps at all and even adds to the problem. I know for a fact that it is just as easy, if not easier, to acquire heroin in prison than 'outside', an addict locked in a cell with little to do other than feel sorry for himself is never going to turn down the readily available hit to help him through the day. i expect people will say "what about the crime and violence that comes with drug culture" but i regularly see drunk people smashing windows, vandalising property and beating people up, yet nobody calls for the illegalisation of alcohol. In my opinion, the kind of alcoholic who drinks a bottle of vodka before leaving the house in the morning is just as ill as any drug addict i have ever met. There is a definite double standard here.
To clarify my position, before i get the backlash of comments, I detest hard drugs and have absolutely no respect for the people that use them, but having known several of these people personally and seen the change in them mentally and physically, I feel the utmost pity for them and their famlies. I do however believe that softer drugs such as cannabis should be considered socially acceptable if we are to continue to allow and even encourage people to drink alcohol on a regular basis.
Drugs dont kill people, ignorance and irresponsibility does.

Does alcohol lead to cocaine? So why should E?
In support of this statement, i would say that if drugs are a slippery slope that lead to abuse howcome we can trust the average person to drink a few pints on a friday night and not progress to a bottle of whisky a day?

Comment by Anonymous

October 25th 2006 06:50

Hmm some vory good points, this would prevent many deaths if it was leaglised.

Comment by Cibbuano

November 5th 2006 22:04

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with regards to pill reports, when a certain pill is known for being good quality, for sure there'll be some evil bastards making mockups, and filling them with other, nastier chemicals.

Regulate. Fantastic.

Comment by Anonymous

March 29th 2007 10:25

Your text goes hereYour text goes hereYour text goes herei like drugs

Comment by Anonymous

June 20th 2007 02:25

i love E and i will continue to do it as long as i live.
you should try it too.

Comment by Brenton

July 21st 2007 05:30

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Anonomous (first one) - one of my faviourite written comments ever.

To everybody who made more sense - thank you also.

Comment by testo

July 29th 2007 11:24

I believe that ecstasy should be legalized and regulated. It is known that regular ecstasy use is infact considered safer than regular binge drinking or smoking. The only reason people take ecstasy at parties is the same reason people get drunk at parties, to have good time by being more comfortable socially. The long-term effects of the drug are still in debate as compared to problems like liver-sclorosis, pancreatitis and liver failure which are known and very common with alcohol and lung cancer in relation to smoking. This idea is also known to be adopted in European clubs where the club offers their patrons their own E in hopes of reducing OD and other problems that may come with foreign substances. This way they are "REGULATING" the distribtion of the drug and they know exactly what's in it and thus, no problems. The fact of the matter is that it is completely impossible to stop the creation and distribution of E, so the best that we could do is atleast make it safe for users by regulating its design.

Comment by Brenton

July 29th 2007 11:28

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This idea is also known to be adopted in European clubs where the club offers their patrons their own E in hopes of reducing OD and other problems that may come with foreign substances.

Does anyone have any references to support this? I'd be interested to look into this.

Comment by testo

July 30th 2007 05:15

Really Long Link

Just read the whole thing. It explains everything.

Comment by Brenton

July 30th 2007 08:30

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Off to have a look now.

Comment by Brenton

July 30th 2007 12:15

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I had as look. It was well written but contained no reference about clubs supplying ecstacy to patrons.

Comment by Brenton

September 19th 2007 22:11

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Ecstacy specifically doesn't have a known basis for physical addiction- in fact, with the way in which it interacts with the brain, it would seem to be the opposite.

I think that legal Ecstasy would be more used. As for levels of addiction, there may be a small increase. As for fatalities, especially of first time, and young users though, I think it would reduce fatalities, which to me is the important thing.

Balancing up minor increases in addiction (which are less likely with Ecstacy than with other drugs) with the reduced liklihood of fatalities, especially from first time and underage users, I think it's a fair trade.

Comment by KiLLaGaRRiLLa420

November 3rd 2007 23:04

I agree that all drugs should be legalized.... especially weed! all of those are valid points, but the reason I think that they should be legal is because I feel it is your right to do whatever you want with your own body and in your own home. The government is destroying your rights and trying to control what you do. So yes legalize them all...... If anything we need stronger regulation on the government. .... 420

Comment by Brenton

November 4th 2007 08:39

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The Ethical arguement of choice - a good one but filled with complications

and of course, those who believe that we can legislate for self preservastion at all costs.

Comment by Anonymous

July 3rd 2008 07:36

the reason most drugs are illegal is because the industry is open game for entrepreneurs and growers/producers to make legal street money w/o tax. the government would never b able to find these people because they're virtually untraceable. marijuana was made illegal, because the main producer of the time realized there would be alot of competition, being a powerful man, he was able to make marijuana illegal to all.

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Comment by Brenton

July 3rd 2008 14:36

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make legal street money w/o tax. the government would never b able to find thes

If its w/o tax, it's not legal street money.

In Australia, nobody botheres with wild tobacco, because the equivalent is taxed.

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