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Dead People Read Your Script 3: Raver

January 15th 2007 01:03
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I have a couple of friends involved in the rave scene. They love life, they LOVE doof (techno music) and they love drugs.
Now there’s one unfortunate thing most people are accustomed to hearing about drug users. They kind of die. They’re good at it. Heroin users OD. Pot heads fall off balconies. And Ecstasy Users are prone to drink too much water (or, not enough) and die.

There’s one girl, who I won’t name (having her memory publicly flogged for political reasons far too much for m to engage in the same) who did, as I suggested above, take ecstasy and die of drinking too much water. Now, it’s entirely possible, were you to ask her now, presuming she, or her spirit or whichever can see what’s going down on Earth, be overjoyed with what her death has inspired. However, it’s also possible that she’d be entirely displeased.
My friends who are into drugs, tend to passionately oppose mainstream views of drugs, and tend to focus their explanations of the dangers of drugs around social problems and the way in which Governments legislate psychoactive substances. If they’d died from taking drugs on their first experience, would they have opposed the use of their memory to push against their use? No idea; maybe, maybe not. But, considering themselves to experiment safely and responsibly over a number of years, would they oppose their memory to be used in this way if they died of drug related causes today? Especially considering the laws preventing the sales of drugs like ecstasy prevent the regulation of such drugs, hence making it easier for dangerous impurities to find their way in? Almost definitely.


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Comment by Cibbuano

January 15th 2007 01:52
It would be a world of trouble and misery if all drugs were legalized, but they're wreaking havoc as illegal substances anyway. What's the solution?

I think governments have to realize that people want to get fucked up.


Comment by Brenton

January 15th 2007 02:22
I think whatever you're view on drugs, you should at least try to be a little sensitive to the views of those who are killed by them, before you use them to further your personal opinion.

Comment by Ash

January 15th 2007 08:09
I know a few people who are regular drug users - I also know that those people have deep-rooted problems and they use drugs as their escape.
Legalizing things won`t make the social problems go away - perhaps we all just need to listen a bit more instead of being so wrapped up in ourselves.

Comment by Brenton

January 15th 2007 08:25
I have written an arguement for legalizing ecstacy, but this actually isn't it...

However, I do think that it's possible to use drugs without being full of issues.

People do it every day - caffine, alchohol, niccotine. The only difference is these are legal - not nescercerally different.

Does beliving though drugs are bad, and ought not be legal, Ash, justify using a drug death to promote anti-drug messages, even if the individual who died would not approve?

Comment by Ash

January 15th 2007 08:42
As they say people who have died under such circumstances should not have lived in vain, their stories should be told in order to save future lives who would go in the same direction. Even if one person is saved by showing the raw facts it has made an impact. Not all drug users share the same disapproval though, what about the ones who would like their lives to be as a lesson to others? Even if it prevents one other person from using that one time, that one time that could kill them, then that message would not have been in vain.

Comment by Brenton

January 15th 2007 08:54
I'm more thasn certain some would want their name to be used to discouracge such actions - but some of these ppl are passionate about drugs as a moral and political casued. Does the fact that something kills make it a total evil?

Imagine How Steve Irwin would feel if his death was used in a campagn to stop people spending time with dangerous animals, or how marie Curie would feel if her death was used to discourage experementing to find more about the properties of radium?

Comment by Ash

January 15th 2007 09:18
From what I can see it is used more as a warning of the possibilities of what may happen - everyone has a choice of what they want to do and what they do not want to do - that is up to the individual. However, they should be properly informed by the facts before they start experimenting.
It is easy for someone who has used drugs many times to tell a first time user that it is ok to use themselves. You could say the same about cars - car accidents are huge killers, however everyone is warned of what happens with speeding and negligence.

Comment by Brenton

January 15th 2007 09:24

Comment by Damo

January 15th 2007 10:37
I have seen quite a bit of the gunja usage in my older days. One work place was practically wall to wall with them. Seen a few OD's at night clubs and even at the old Blue light disco. The most interesting was the guy who ODed on Parliament Station at peak hour. He turned a strange grey colour as his heart fluttered away. His mate admitted it was Smack but had no idea what to do. As soon as someone mentioned getting an ambulance the mate start hitting his friend and slapping so they could make a getaway.

Years later I wonder why people do this to them selves and why others don't. Is it just social conditioning that stops people from taking drugs or are their people who are prone to experiment with drugs. Perhaps some people don't use drugs out of fear and others because the don't want spend money. What ever the reason I believe that there will always be those who take drugs and those who refuse. I'm not really conviced that legalizing it will do from a social perspective. Everyone of te regular users I knew had read several books on the subject to reafirm their beliefs that it was okay.

Comment by Brenton

January 15th 2007 12:58
I wanted to answer this straight away, but waited till now so i could give you a good ansewer.

Is it just social conditioning that stops people from taking drugs or are their people who are prone to experiment with drugs.

I think both. I think that yeah, there's a million things that make or stop drug use, and there's times when it's good, and times when it's bad.

What ever the reason I believe that there will always be those who take drugs and those who refuse.

Mos def.

Personally I'm a supporter of legalising anything that's not physically addictive. I think this would stop alot of current problems. This can be seen in an earlier article called "Ecstacy Kills (So Leagalize it)"

I genuinely think this discussion has changed my views. Facts are facts, and even with an adgenda attached, it's important to be honest - if you want to say drugs kill, and say so and so dies of drugs. There is no limit on what people express, or how. However, there is a point where the use of sombodies death to prove a point is grossly overdone, and I'd have to say, so indulgent that I can't help but loose alot of respect for those responsible.

Comment by KylieW

January 17th 2007 03:23
There will always be people who want to take drugs. Some because they have issues, others because they want to experiment and have some fun.

Of the drug & alcohol related deaths each year, about 90% of them are due to alcohol and tobacco. But I dont see them being made illegal any time soon.


Comment by Brenton

January 17th 2007 03:52

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