Comment by AnorexicBeauty
October 23rd 2006 01:15
Oohkay... so back onto the anorexia thing, despite my conviction the last post really was just that, for a long time anyhow. Just wanting to bring a recent comment into the mainstream here.
Unedited Comment by AnorexicBeauty (A now non-existent Orble account) October 16th 2006 19:59
We dont do this to prove we are in control...we dont do this to be "individuals", and we sure as hell dont do it to find acceptance with others. We do it to find acceptance with ourselves.
We didnt just wake up one morning and say, "hey, lets hate our bodies for the rest of our lives and slowly kill ourselves".
This isnt about being popular or liked by others. Sure its one huge added bonus, but honsetly its wanting to not hate ourselves. We continue in the hope that one day, maybe, if we are nearly vanished, then with our fat will go the intense hate we have for ourselves.
Its not glamorous. We want out, but suicidal waves and severe anger and hurt follow attempted recovery. You feel determined and empowered when you have "sucesses". Communities cheer on your accomplishments, because to us, they are accomplishments. You dont knock someopne with a goal of getting into Harvard, so why hate people with a goal of getting into a 00 jean? So its not normal to be that skinny...who cares.
We just want to be perfect. It feels wonderful to not eat lunch and last through the hunger pains. To know that well be fine for a few more hours till dinner. To be strong. Stop trying to break our spirit.
OK, so, aside from the obvious (such as the multiple issues comparing the achievement of entering Harvard, to the achievement of having a medically recognised disease) there's a couple of points I'd like to bring up myself.
Firstly, I'd like to say that Pro-Ana communities have been a source of confusion for me for a while. Everything I understood and believed lead me to understand - an individuals body is there own choice. The right to an abortion, to euthanasia, to a tattoo. My Raver friends pop pills that can whittle away at your spine until you snap like a twig in the breeze, and that's their choice and their business. Hell, I got a chunk of metal stabbed through my nipple, who am I to say what you can and can't do with your body? Is Pro-Anorexia morally defendable?
I say...
YES.
But, that doesn't mean it's not entirely daft.
Starving to make you happy will not work. Starving away hate does not work. There are zillions of ways to deal with self-worth issues, and choosing to deal with them through self harm, is not effective. That is what I would consider the main issue to be. IT is ineffective and dangerous, and hinders personal development, rather than helping it.
For the record, any more comments on this subject will certainly be noticed, but not blogged upon.
Related Posts -
Pro Anorexic Websites (With original comment)
Anorexia Revisited
Unedited Comment by AnorexicBeauty (A now non-existent Orble account) October 16th 2006 19:59
We dont do this to prove we are in control...we dont do this to be "individuals", and we sure as hell dont do it to find acceptance with others. We do it to find acceptance with ourselves.
We didnt just wake up one morning and say, "hey, lets hate our bodies for the rest of our lives and slowly kill ourselves".
Its not glamorous. We want out, but suicidal waves and severe anger and hurt follow attempted recovery. You feel determined and empowered when you have "sucesses". Communities cheer on your accomplishments, because to us, they are accomplishments. You dont knock someopne with a goal of getting into Harvard, so why hate people with a goal of getting into a 00 jean? So its not normal to be that skinny...who cares.
We just want to be perfect. It feels wonderful to not eat lunch and last through the hunger pains. To know that well be fine for a few more hours till dinner. To be strong. Stop trying to break our spirit.
OK, so, aside from the obvious (such as the multiple issues comparing the achievement of entering Harvard, to the achievement of having a medically recognised disease) there's a couple of points I'd like to bring up myself.
Firstly, I'd like to say that Pro-Ana communities have been a source of confusion for me for a while. Everything I understood and believed lead me to understand - an individuals body is there own choice. The right to an abortion, to euthanasia, to a tattoo. My Raver friends pop pills that can whittle away at your spine until you snap like a twig in the breeze, and that's their choice and their business. Hell, I got a chunk of metal stabbed through my nipple, who am I to say what you can and can't do with your body? Is Pro-Anorexia morally defendable?
I say...
YES.
But, that doesn't mean it's not entirely daft.
Starving to make you happy will not work. Starving away hate does not work. There are zillions of ways to deal with self-worth issues, and choosing to deal with them through self harm, is not effective. That is what I would consider the main issue to be. IT is ineffective and dangerous, and hinders personal development, rather than helping it.
For the record, any more comments on this subject will certainly be noticed, but not blogged upon.
Related Posts -
Pro Anorexic Websites (With original comment)
Anorexia Revisited
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I suggest you check out www.erowid.org maybe even www.bluelight.nu.
Anyway, in no way shape or form am I suggesting that ecstasy is harmless and wonderful I just have a bone about miss information and these silly stories that get taught at schools, mainly because it ends up discrediting all the true and relevant information.A big factor in harm minimisation is getting the trust of users and providing them with the facts not causing false hysteria.
I check out your ecstasy kills post. I agree with what you're saying but again, the majority of deaths from ecstasy are not related to overdose, rather dehyrdration or over hyrdation.
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I found that on the Eroid page, and nothing to specifically state that there was any contrary case, but whether or not there is, the important ponit is there is a corrolation between physically damaging drug use, and physically damaging eating habits, being part of an individuals chosen lifestyle.